Wednesday, September 20, 2023

Indie Spotlight: Andrew Hook w/ Eugen Bacon

 Welcome to our Indie Spotlight series, in which TNBBC gives small press authors the floor to shed some light on their writing process, publishing experiences, or whatever else they'd like to share with you, the readers!

Today, we are joined by Andrew Hook and Eugen Bacon, as they discuss the importance of choosing the right setting for their novel Secondhand Daylight, which releases in October. 

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Location Location Location

 By Andrew Hook, author of Secondhand Daylight with Eugen Bacon


The setting in a story is just as important as character and plot, but how do you make the decision where to pay big attention to setting? Does it have to be somewhere you know well? Can you pluck a place out of the air and do some research? Or do you cheat (!), aka invent, and make the whole thing up?


I’ve done all three, but in my forthcoming novel – Secondhand Daylight – there was a very specific reason for choosing the location, which is predominantly set in Melbourne, Australia: my co-author lives there.


Secondhand Daylight is a collaborative time-travel novel written with the African Australian author, Eugen Bacon. When we suggested writing a novel together, I was aware Eugen was living in Melbourne, but I had also spent a few months there in 1991 while travelling. I had fond memories of the place – especially the Sarah Sands Hotel, which was a pub that had an alternative disco on Thursday nights and where I spent a lot of time on the dancefloor.


Knowing we both had knowledge of the city centred the novel, but also realising I could start my character’s journey in the early nineties, meant I could harness my experiences of Melbourne at that time. We initially agreed I’d write Green’s story, and Eugen would write Zada’s, but this shifted as we started writing—and that’s a whole different story! As my character, Green, moved forward into the present day, Eugen could pick up on the vibe of the city now, and then extrapolate that into the future. Melbourne becomes as much of a character in the novel as our protagonists, Green and Zada:


Thursday night I was back at the Sarah Sands Hotel. It afforded me an approximation of community. The post-punk crowd dressed as extras from a Cure video. The DJ who knew which records to spin, the dance floor which was my church. Within that rectangle, under multicoloured lights, cossetted by music, I spun and twisted, cavorted my body into memories and shapes, glimpsed othersdoing the same, amorphous companions who returned to the shadows once the song finished.


Melbourne comes alive in its own way in this story, not just in New Brunswick, where our Sarah Sands Hotel is located, enriched with my own memory of it, but also in Essendon, where Green owns a cul de sac, and in Collingwood, where Green’s father now lives with the woman who has replaced Green’s mother, and in Ringwood, where Green’s friend Batesman (Batey) lives with his family – the latter being Eugen’s renditions of a new Melbourne. Hopefully our experiences – mine and Eugen’s – make the novel more authentic.


Gaps in my memory were augmented by internet searches and I was also able to revisit suburbs such as Moonee Ponds via Google Streetview, which coupled nostalgia with being able to see how the area had changed. Eugen could draw on the present day, of course, and extrapolate – the creative author she is, who loves experimenting.


During the novel, my character also reminisces about time spent travelling the Gold Coast around the Whitsunday Islands. Another trip I had made. Again, personal experience came into play (except for weed? That was Eugen’s fictional add-on, I swear):


Batey and I had each scratched up enough for a plane ticket. I smiled wryly. Don’t even ask, I thought to myself. I’d knocked off something, a fan or an aircon, I couldn’t remember what exactly now. Maybe sold some of my records. Then I got some good hands-on bud, and weed always sold quick on the streets. With all that money, we went no further than Townsville and Noosa…


Batey and I, we’d driven north, pulled off the road and down a dirt track at random, so we could take a break and eat pre-bought meat pies and down a couple of tinnies. On a clifftop we’d glanced down into the sparkling azure and caught sight of a school of dolphins, their fins rising and falling in forward movement through the surf. No-one else around. A moment pure for us. At the time, I’d wished I had a girl there.


Later, in Zada’s story from the future, the scene replays from Bateman’s perspective:


He necks from the bottle of VB. Wipes his mouth. “Green and I went travelling together. There’s a bond there that can’t be broken. Two guys in a camper. No commitments. The naivety of youth. We headed up to Queensland. Noosa. Townsville. The usual. Spent a lot of time around the Whitsundays. Camped out on the beach with fruit bats chittering above us in the trees, their crap bouncing off the tent.” He laughs deeply, now. “One of those ovals dropped into Green’s cup of tea. I let him take a sip before I said anything.”


He roars. They’re laughing together. His teeth white as white.


“Jeez, those pure white sands at Whitehaven Beach,” says Bateman. “And the girls—a few of those too. But Green had to work harder than I did. He’s more thoughtful, lives less in the moment, you know.” Bateman pauses. “Although I imagine living in the moment is all he has now.”


While Melbourne (and Australia in general) worked best for this novel, I would say there are no hard and fast rules when it comes to setting, other than if you are using a real place then try and get the minutiae of your location pinned down as much as possible. There will always be someone ready to comment that a car can’t turn right at that junction, whether in the past, present or future.


Andrew Hook 
is a European writer with over 160 short stories in print, including notable appearances in Interzone, Black Static, and several anthologies from PS Publishing and NewCon Press. His fiction has been reprinted in anthologies including Best British Horror 2015 and Best British Short Stories 2020, has been shortlisted for British Fantasy Society awards, and he was longlisted for the Commonwealth Writers Short Story Prize in 2020. As editor/publisher, he has won three British Fantasy Society awards and he also has been a judge for the World Fantasy Awards. Most recent publications include Candescent Blooms (Salt Publishing)—5-star reviewed in the Telegraph. Find him at or @AndrewHookUK


Eugen Bacon
 is an African Australian author of several novels and fiction collections. She’s a 2022 World Fantasy Award finalist, and was announced in the honor list of the 2022 Otherwise Fellowships for ‘doing exciting work in gender and speculative fiction’. Her book Danged Black Thing made the 2021 Otherwise Honor List as a ‘sharp collection of Afro-Surrealist work’. Recent books: Mage of Fools (novel), Chasing Whispers (collection) and An Earnest Blackness (essay collection). Eugen has two novels, a novella and three anthologies (ed) out in 2023, together with the US release of Danged Black ThingVisit her website at and Twitter feed at @EugenBacon


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